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compared with the fiscal cliff which was by all accounts a roughly familiar tax and spending debate, this one has far more import because it will determine whether among other things the united states continues to make good on the obligations it has already undertaken. interest and principal on the debt we have borrowed. our credit rating which was so famously downgraded in the summer of 2011 hangs in the balance here. and of course, people on both sides of the aisle are fighting over whether it is fair game to use the debt ceiling as a piece of political leverage to get the government to stop its spending. on the one hand, people on the right say, well, what else are we going to use? we are engaging in sort of financial madness spending so much so we have to use whatever tool is available there and you heard the president yesterday, tamron, saying this is like taking the economy hostage by threatening not to pay debts that we have already incured. >> tyler, as i mentioned, the dow up just a little bit today. how soon will we see perhaps start to see an impact on the arrows on the sc
compared with the fiscal cliff which was by all accounts a roughly familiar tax and spending debate, this one has far more import because it will determine whether among other things the united states continues to make good on the obligations it has already undertaken. interest and principal on the debt we have borrowed. our credit rating which was so famously downgraded in the summer of 2011 hangs in the balance here. and of course, people on both sides of the aisle are fighting over whether...
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will john boehner at the end of the day have to do what he did with the tax bill, which is basically cede control of the house more or less to the democrats and have most of his party vote against something but allow a vote to come up that will let democrats and nancy pelosi yet again rescue the day. >> okay, jared. i want to play you something the president said on monday. you referenced it yourself. take a listen. >> they will not collect or ransom an exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. >> jared, i put it to you, do they not realize this fight isn't just hurting the economy. it's also helping this president look like the only grown-up in washington. >> i don't think they're calculus on this stuff is as rational as your question suggests, of course. but, again, if you actually get out of this beltway, and i try to do it as much as possible, and talk to people, the question i consistently get is why doesn't washington really care about the problems that we face? and when you mention recent housing
will john boehner at the end of the day have to do what he did with the tax bill, which is basically cede control of the house more or less to the democrats and have most of his party vote against something but allow a vote to come up that will let democrats and nancy pelosi yet again rescue the day. >> okay, jared. i want to play you something the president said on monday. you referenced it yourself. take a listen. >> they will not collect or ransom an exchange for not crashing the...
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budget deal that is balanced and that has enough spending cuts, real spending cuts, to balance any tax revenues? >> well, i think we need to look at long-term and that's where the house has passed the budget. we're still waiting on the senate to pass the budget after 1,350 days. you need to have that on the table from the senate side. you obviously need to have that from the president who has not told us when he is going to send his budget over. is he going to miss those dead looirchz. we have a lot of work to do, but it deals with spending. that's the problem. i want to avoid a downgrade, and i do agree with the vice president of the united states that says we're not going to default on our debt. that's clear. we have enough payments coming in to the treasury to pay our interest on the debt, and that's how we avoid the default, but we've got to focus on the spending problem, and that's what most of my constituents are talking about. >> i want to ask you about the gun control debate because the president is going to be rolling out a new proposal tomorrow, and he is prepared to use exec
budget deal that is balanced and that has enough spending cuts, real spending cuts, to balance any tax revenues? >> well, i think we need to look at long-term and that's where the house has passed the budget. we're still waiting on the senate to pass the budget after 1,350 days. you need to have that on the table from the senate side. you obviously need to have that from the president who has not told us when he is going to send his budget over. is he going to miss those dead looirchz. we...
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say they they make up 16% of the taxes collectle in the country. all the different argument. what about the concern over the country's fiscal situation. and how it factors in to this particular disaster relief bill after the house passed the $9 billion relief bill, the first tranche of relief the last two weeks. new jersey governor chris christie criticized for the delay to this point. thenate doing something two weeks ago. it seems to me that the criticism it's a blunt instrument. 1.6% of discretionary spending lop it off and throw it away. if you look at priest proposals, doing away with the legal services and you think wait a minute. there is a political agenda here being pursued by people who want to do away with the discretionary spending. the comeback has been this is the first time. you have never had a situation where disaster relief has been attached to, the compensatory cuts in the rest of the budget. >> bret: right. that is a fair point. they makebe is that to tie all of this together has not happened before. it didn't happen in katrina and it didn't happen in othe
say they they make up 16% of the taxes collectle in the country. all the different argument. what about the concern over the country's fiscal situation. and how it factors in to this particular disaster relief bill after the house passed the $9 billion relief bill, the first tranche of relief the last two weeks. new jersey governor chris christie criticized for the delay to this point. thenate doing something two weeks ago. it seems to me that the criticism it's a blunt instrument. 1.6% of...
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how to stop talking about legitimate rape and insulting women, science 101, creating task breaks and tax shelters for million air campaign donors and after that ppp poll showing how unpopular congress really is, there's how to increase our approval ratings. what root canals, traffic jams, cockroaches, and head lice are doing to us. and republicans are presumably doing wrong i guess. up next, the house of representatives will be voting tonight on a big aide package for the victims of hurricane sandy. but will republicans go along with it? especially from the south. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> i'm sue herera with your cnbc market wrap. the dounl gained 27 points. the s&p gained a point and the nasdaq slipped about 6 points
how to stop talking about legitimate rape and insulting women, science 101, creating task breaks and tax shelters for million air campaign donors and after that ppp poll showing how unpopular congress really is, there's how to increase our approval ratings. what root canals, traffic jams, cockroaches, and head lice are doing to us. and republicans are presumably doing wrong i guess. up next, the house of representatives will be voting tonight on a big aide package for the victims of hurricane...
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basically creates a refundable tax credit for a gun owner who turns in their fire arm to state poli police. >> who are this is people? how could they be so insensitive to not understand the weight of what they're doing and target practice, so starting at age 4, and shooting at coffins, do they not understand what happened in sandy hook? what happens in our cities all over this nation with youngsters dies through this gun violent? >> i think the membership should rise up against a leadership that's so out of touch. >> one thing that has come forward is the anticipation of these 19 suggestions that's come forth, that he could take action on right away. one of your colleagues, said i will seek to thwart of action by any means necessary. when you hear about how obstinate people on the right already are for the potential of any type of executive order, what is your rye action to hearing how people wo throw out the word "impeachment"? >> it's always good to know what's being proposed before you react to it. i think my colleague needs to take a step back, see what the proposals are, and then you
basically creates a refundable tax credit for a gun owner who turns in their fire arm to state poli police. >> who are this is people? how could they be so insensitive to not understand the weight of what they're doing and target practice, so starting at age 4, and shooting at coffins, do they not understand what happened in sandy hook? what happens in our cities all over this nation with youngsters dies through this gun violent? >> i think the membership should rise up against a...
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so we raise taxes, we got pretty much exactly what obama asked for with a big tax hike and obama's response is, now we need a balanced approach where we raise more taxes. >> megyn: jonah goldberg, thank you. >> thank you. >> megyn: up next, a popular internet activist was faced with a possible 35 years in jail for hacking before took his own life. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone happy" ♪it's so important to make someone happy.♪ it's so important to make meone happy.♪ ♪make just one someone happy ♪and you will be happy too. >> fox news alert. we told you at the top of the hour how ejust got word from the white house briefing that the the president will deliver his plan for the gun crackdown, however you want to phrase it, the executive orders that he is prepared to issue on guns in addition to the legislative push that we expect him to make around this time tomorrow. well, moments ago we just learned that the president will be joined by children from around the country who wrote letters to the president in the wake of the newtown tragedy, expressing their concerns
so we raise taxes, we got pretty much exactly what obama asked for with a big tax hike and obama's response is, now we need a balanced approach where we raise more taxes. >> megyn: jonah goldberg, thank you. >> thank you. >> megyn: up next, a popular internet activist was faced with a possible 35 years in jail for hacking before took his own life. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone happy" ♪it's so important to make someone happy.♪ it's so...
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couldn't take anything for granted. >> reporter: their lobbying effort paid off, there is no federal tax on sugary drinks. fast forward to today, the centers for disease control says more and more americans are drinking the stuff. the center for science and the public interest, a non-profit consumer advocacy group says sugary drinks are the number one source of calories in the american diet. they put out their famous version of the coca-cola bear called the real bear. ♪ sugar, sugar, so good, so good, sugar ♪ >> coca-cola said "obesity is complex and requires partnership and collaboration to help solve it. we have an important role to play in the effort to find solutions that work for everybody." let's bring in our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. so i know it's a tough topic. coke says it can play an important role in america's fight against obesity, it says it's decreased the calories in its products. in middle schools it sells juices instead of cans of coke. it says it's doing its part. what's the big deal? leave us alone? >> i think that's part of it. there's a fear
couldn't take anything for granted. >> reporter: their lobbying effort paid off, there is no federal tax on sugary drinks. fast forward to today, the centers for disease control says more and more americans are drinking the stuff. the center for science and the public interest, a non-profit consumer advocacy group says sugary drinks are the number one source of calories in the american diet. they put out their famous version of the coca-cola bear called the real bear. ♪ sugar, sugar, so...
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and don't forget all of our used foods are 100% tax free. this week kids get free abc gum with a purchase of $20 or more. used foods emporium now with 999 convenient locations. [ applause ] >> stephanie: that was kenny pick. yeah right? president kaine, yikes. kelly you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning. that soundings like a lovely place to shop. >> stephanie: sorry if you are eating breakfast. >> caller: no, i'm laying in bed watching you. >> stephanie: hello. okay. >> caller: i have been listening to the chatter about gun control ever since that horrific incident in newtown, and i want to jump on the other side of the coin as somebody who has been in counseling for clinical depression for over five years. i know people with asperger's syndrome. i don't want a still ma to be attached to mental illness the way it is with pitbull. >> stephanie: yeah. there are obviously different degrees of everything -- >> caller: well, know i mean when people talk about people who open fire on people they talk about mental illness
and don't forget all of our used foods are 100% tax free. this week kids get free abc gum with a purchase of $20 or more. used foods emporium now with 999 convenient locations. [ applause ] >> stephanie: that was kenny pick. yeah right? president kaine, yikes. kelly you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: good morning. that soundings like a lovely place to shop. >> stephanie: sorry if you are eating breakfast. >> caller: no, i'm laying in bed...